i rceived an email a couple ago asking, basedon a conversation elsewhere, what i meant by ” shake and bake” –was i referencing talladega nights?
nope. the termpredates that movie by a decade.
let’s explain:
so, mm’s see a surge tomorrow on ticker abcd:nasd.nm. how? because sallimay, the daughter of the ceo told her sorority sister, the daughter of the hedge fund manager, that she was going to shopping for a new beemer on saturday.
(don;t think that happens? i once had an associate who was chief of security for a rather expensive private college, who did his most successul trades based on whether visiting parents, who were all ceo/cfo/coo/etc types were smiling or somber whe they greeted their daughters.)
the mm can see, on his screen that there are a total of 100k shares hanging in the float wth limit sells, and stop loss orders.
let’s say abcd is trading at 15, and there are stops in all the way down to 10. a stop loss at 13 5/8 will execute at 8, if that’s the clear (the “market”), and there’s a buyer. so.. he offers to buy 80k @ 8, and sell 1k at 12, 1k at 11, 1k @ 10, 1k @ 8 1/16. somebody elsewhere (like me) has a limit buy, 1k @ 8 1/8.
as soon as the “enter” button gets hit, the domios fall, and all 100k of stop losses kick in, looking for a buyer. why? becuase that 1k @ 8 1/15 sell hit my buy 1k @ 8 1/8.
the mm is now short 1k, but, if there are not limit buys in for 99k more between 8 1/8 and 13 5/8, all those stop losses are going to pour into the mm’s account.
and 2 minures later the whole thing is over.
and that’s shake and bake.
think things like that never happen? tat the markets are not that corrupt? that hedger fnd managers are your freinds? that ur broker is looking out for you? that that hypster on a stock board cares about the company? that the regulators will prevent this?
ok. keep beleiving it. or else note:
as stp loss order kick in and the machines talk to themselves
then read the chage in “analysts” lol…”sentiment” today.
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This post was written by admin on April 30, 2009
is there any way to stop this or even anticipate it?i see it happen every day because i stupidly got invested in small cap stocks.snss is being killed by this and waves of bash attacks.really like reading your posts on isco and btim.take no prisoners and funny.a hard combo to beat.